Comments on: What is Salvation? http://www.bestillknowgod.com Communicating with God and Hearing God's Voice Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:15:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert http://www.bestillknowgod.com/what-is-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-2851 Robert Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:45:34 +0000 http://www.bestillknowgod.com/?page_id=734#comment-2851 Caroline, That's a great question. Here's the way I see it at this time: Short answer is no I don't think that a person has to acknowledge that Jesus lived/died/rose to be saved. But here we are talking about the Christian view of salvation. Which is only attained through belief in Jesus' death and resurrection. Which is something rather vague and uncertain really. I mean seriously, how many Christians have you found that were secure in their "salvation" You see we can talk concepts all day long, but take it to where the rubber meets the road! Look at your own experience and the experience of those you know and love and notice where salvation is or isn't and how it was achieved or not. When Jesus said "I am the way... etc" he was speaking of something far greater than the current Christian interpretation of those simple words. Christians take it to be a literal statement that declared the Man Jesus the only path to God for ever and always. Jesus was flesh like you and me. The "I am" that he acknowledged as the way, the truth and the life was something far greater than human flesh. That "way" is the path that every living human being must take to God. It is the experience of finding/knowing God outside of and beyond all physical conditions. It is the allowing and acknowledging of the complete Oneness we have with God. Every person who has reached that place can say "I am the way, the truth, the life." Because there isn't any other way, truth, or life outside that. All the other stuff is pretend - attempts to conjure life via religious forms, rules, judgments, etc. "Do this an you're saved." "Do that and you have everlasting life." These are the cries of the religious enslaved who are compelled to push their bondage on others so they can enjoy their company. The "I am" way needs none of it. The path to the Father is one of awakening to the fact that you are the child and One with Him. Jesus the man tried to show us this via his own awakened life. People just didn't get it. And still don't. And will fight to hang on to and promote their pathetic counterfeit construction of the closest thing they can create to real freedom, truth, and life. I hope this helps! Blessings, Robert Caroline,

That’s a great question. Here’s the way I see it at this time:

Short answer is no I don’t think that a person has to acknowledge that Jesus lived/died/rose to be saved.

But here we are talking about the Christian view of salvation. Which is only attained through belief in Jesus’ death and resurrection. Which is something rather vague and uncertain really. I mean seriously, how many Christians have you found that were secure in their “salvation” You see we can talk concepts all day long, but take it to where the rubber meets the road! Look at your own experience and the experience of those you know and love and notice where salvation is or isn’t and how it was achieved or not.

When Jesus said “I am the way… etc” he was speaking of something far greater than the current Christian interpretation of those simple words. Christians take it to be a literal statement that declared the Man Jesus the only path to God for ever and always.

Jesus was flesh like you and me. The “I am” that he acknowledged as the way, the truth and the life was something far greater than human flesh.

That “way” is the path that every living human being must take to God. It is the experience of finding/knowing God outside of and beyond all physical conditions. It is the allowing and acknowledging of the complete Oneness we have with God.

Every person who has reached that place can say “I am the way, the truth, the life.” Because there isn’t any other way, truth, or life outside that.

All the other stuff is pretend – attempts to conjure life via religious forms, rules, judgments, etc.

“Do this an you’re saved.” “Do that and you have everlasting life.” These are the cries of the religious enslaved who are compelled to push their bondage on others so they can enjoy their company.

The “I am” way needs none of it.

The path to the Father is one of awakening to the fact that you are the child and One with Him. Jesus the man tried to show us this via his own awakened life.

People just didn’t get it. And still don’t. And will fight to hang on to and promote their pathetic counterfeit construction of the closest thing they can create to real freedom, truth, and life.

I hope this helps!

Blessings,

Robert

]]> By: Caroline http://www.bestillknowgod.com/what-is-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-2850 Caroline Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:30:39 +0000 http://www.bestillknowgod.com/?page_id=734#comment-2850 Hi Robert I'll play the devils advocate here ~ and ask ~ in your view of salvation as regards talking and being in favour with God ~ Would you see it as necessary to acknowledge somewhere in our being that Jesus lived/died/rose etc to create the way to be able to communicate with God? In other words, most Christians would only accept your point of view IF you also added that they need to believe that Jesus is their saviour, and the ongoing flow of this then becomes communication and favour with God. Thinking of course, of Jesus words New International Version (©1984) Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Hi Robert
I’ll play the devils advocate here ~ and ask ~ in your view of salvation as regards talking and being in favour with God ~ Would you see it as necessary to acknowledge somewhere in our being that Jesus lived/died/rose etc to create the way to be able to communicate with God?

In other words, most Christians would only accept your point of view IF you also added that they need to believe that Jesus is their saviour, and the ongoing flow of this then becomes communication and favour with God.

Thinking of course, of Jesus words
New International Version (©1984)
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

]]> By: Thabisa http://www.bestillknowgod.com/what-is-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-1378 Thabisa Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:43:06 +0000 http://www.bestillknowgod.com/?page_id=734#comment-1378 In many years i have been running away from Salvation because of people who kept saying in order for me to be saved i have to give up everything i do and if i do get saved and get back to what i was doing God will punish ne forever and i did not want to dissapoint Him. At time He was the most important person in my life because i could talk to Him and be able to tell Him everything and i kept promising Him that one day i will accept Him as the Lord and my saviour.All to found that i was being delayed of wonderfull life for long time of suffering but now i glad and happy to here what you are saying because many people still need to here this . They need to hear that they are love and cared for Thanks In many years i have been running away from Salvation because of people who kept saying in order for me to be saved i have to give up everything i do and if i do get saved and get back to what i was doing God will punish ne forever and i did not want to dissapoint Him. At time He was the most important person in my life because i could talk to Him and be able to tell Him everything and i kept promising Him that one day i will accept Him as the Lord and my saviour.All to found that i was being delayed of wonderfull life for long time of suffering but now i glad and happy to here what you are saying because many people still need to here this . They need to hear that they are love and cared for

Thanks

]]> By: Robert http://www.bestillknowgod.com/what-is-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-1183 Robert Wed, 04 Aug 2010 05:38:04 +0000 http://www.bestillknowgod.com/?page_id=734#comment-1183 Amazing story. As you know there is nothing like having God speak to you and KNOWING it was God! Thanks for sharing! Amazing story. As you know there is nothing like having God speak to you and KNOWING it was God!
Thanks for sharing!

]]> By: Maryann http://www.bestillknowgod.com/what-is-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 Maryann Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:59:44 +0000 http://www.bestillknowgod.com/?page_id=734#comment-1148 I want to take the time to say,how I enjoy the reading about God word. I have something to say, hearing GOD voice. One day I was sitting up on my bed,looking at the television,when something softly whisper into my ear saying : Read Psalm 33,34 and 35. I didn't kown what to do,this was my first TIME something like this ever happen to me,he have given me not one Psalm but 3 at one time..WOW! A few weeks later ,I felt asleep and had a dream, I saw the BEAUTIFUL written word JEREMIAH AND THE NUMBER 12 and under the name ,I saw and it read..THE BOOK OF JEREMIAH. I want to take the time to say,how I enjoy the reading about God word.
I have something to say, hearing GOD voice. One day I was sitting up on my bed,looking at the television,when something softly whisper into my ear saying : Read Psalm 33,34 and 35.
I didn’t kown what to do,this was my first TIME something like this ever happen to me,he have given me not one Psalm but 3 at one time..WOW! A few weeks later ,I felt asleep and had a dream, I saw the BEAUTIFUL written word JEREMIAH AND THE NUMBER 12 and under the
name ,I saw and it read..THE BOOK OF JEREMIAH.

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